{"id":60,"date":"2008-05-29T12:05:11","date_gmt":"2008-05-29T19:05:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.northernway.org\/weblog\/?p=60"},"modified":"2008-05-29T16:17:45","modified_gmt":"2008-05-29T23:17:45","slug":"margaret-starbird-on-stay-at-home-moms-church-fathers-view-of-women","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.northernway.org\/weblog\/?p=60","title":{"rendered":"Margaret Starbird on Stay-at-home-Moms, Church fathers view of women"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Margaret posted the following to our <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/goddesschristians\/\" target=\"_blank\">GoddessChristians\u00c2\u00a0forum<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0on May 23, 2008 during a gender morality and gender roles discussion.<\/p>\n<p>I, too, believe that\u00c2\u00a0we fail to consider the children&#8211;unto 7 generations, as the Native\u00c2\u00a0American grandmothers insist!&#8230;. Our materialistic world-view has\u00c2\u00a0caused women to abandon what was a sacred calling to nurture the\u00c2\u00a0children&#8211;and left the Television to be the &#8220;hand that rocks the\u00c2\u00a0cradle&#8221;&#8211;with obvious consequences! I&#8217;m for Fathers and Mothers\u00c2\u00a0sharing the responsibilities of nurturing as much as possible&#8211;but\u00c2\u00a0that balance isn&#8217;t always achieved. My husband and I were noticing the\u00c2\u00a0difference between our grown kids and those of some family members who\u00c2\u00a0left their kids for others to raise while both parents worked outside\u00c2\u00a0their home&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Western dualism causes a split that is hard to heal&#8230;. which is why\u00c2\u00a0my work is about the &#8220;Sacred Reunion&#8221; of masculine and feminine\u00c2\u00a0(&#8220;integration of Logos and Sophia&#8221;) as illustrated in the &#8220;marriage\u00c2\u00a0window&#8221; showing Jesus and Mary Magdalene &#8220;handfasted&#8221; (posted on my\u00c2\u00a0website: www.margaretstarbird.net &#8211;please feel free to copy, print\u00c2\u00a0and disseminate! This image is on the cover and PR for the &#8220;Bloodline&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0Movie&#8212;and is travelling around the world)&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>There is a fascinating article on the discrimination against women by\u00c2\u00a0the Church (and Western civilization) at this website:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.womenpriests.org\/teaching\/wijnga_1.asp\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.womenpriests.org\/teaching\/wijnga_1.asp<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0 &#8212; some of the\u00c2\u00a0negative statements of church Fathers quoted there make my hair stand\u00c2\u00a0on end:<\/p>\n<p>Aristotle: \u00e2\u20ac\u0153A female is female by virtue of certain lack of qualities\u00c2\u00a0\u00e2\u20ac\u201c a natural defectiveness.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>St. Jerome:\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Women is the gate of the devil, the path of\u00c2\u00a0wickedness . . . a perilous object.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Tertullian:\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Do you know that each of you women is an Eve? You are\u00c2\u00a0the gate of Hell, the temptress of the forbidden tree; you are the\u00c2\u00a0first deserter of Divine Law.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>St. Thomas Aquinas:\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153If a female is conceived, this is due to a\u00c2\u00a0defect in the mother or to some external influence like that of a\u00c2\u00a0humid wind from the south.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Kirkegaard:\u00c2\u00a0 \u00e2\u20ac\u0153What a misfortune, to be a woman! And yet, the worst\u00c2\u00a0misfortune is not to understand what a misfortune it is.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>That is why it is so important to &#8220;excavate&#8221; the real truth about the\u00c2\u00a0original teachings of Jesus. The article&#8217;s quote from the Gospel of\u00c2\u00a0Thomas that has Jesus saying with regard to Mary Magdalene &#8220;&#8230;I will\u00c2\u00a0make her male..&#8221; is a mistranslation of the Greek which uses the word\u00c2\u00a0&#8220;anthropos&#8221;&#8211; This word doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;Male&#8221; in the sense of gender. 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