{"id":361,"date":"2009-12-27T21:41:24","date_gmt":"2009-12-28T04:41:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.northernway.org\/weblog\/?p=361"},"modified":"2009-12-27T21:44:15","modified_gmt":"2009-12-28T04:44:15","slug":"woo-woo-is-a-step-ahead-of-bad-science","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.northernway.org\/weblog\/?p=361","title":{"rendered":"Woo Woo is a Step Ahead of Bad Science"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Rah, rah, Deepak Choprah, &#8220;King of Woo Woo&#8221; for taking on Skeptic Michael Shermer (former fundamentalist Christian) now the &#8220;King of Pooh Pooh&#8221;. Here&#8217;s the very latest volley in the ongoing war between religion and science&#8230;(a useless war since they actually coexist and overlap, ya know!)<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> WOO WOO IS A STEP AHEAD OF (BAD) SCIENCE<br \/>\n<\/span><\/strong> By Deepak Chopra<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/intentchopra\/2009\/12\/woo-woo-is-a-step-ahead-of-bad.html\" target=\"_blank\">BeliefNet<\/a><br \/>\nSunday December 27, 2009<\/p>\n<p>It used to annoy me to be called the king of woo woo. For those who aren&#8217;t<br \/>\nfamiliar with the term, &#8220;woo woo&#8221; is a derogatory reference to almost any<br \/>\nform of unconventional thinking, aimed by professional skeptics who are<br \/>\nself-appointed vigilantes dedicated to the suppression of curiosity. I get<br \/>\nlabeled much worse things as regularly as clockwork whenever I disagree with<br \/>\nbig fry like Richard Dawkins or smaller fry like Michael Shermer, the<br \/>\nScientific American columnist and editor of Skeptic magazine. The latest<br \/>\nbarrage of name-calling occurred after the two of us had a spirited exchange<br \/>\non Larry King Live last week &lt;<a style=\"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer;\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/5AlD31\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/5AlD31<\/a>&gt;. Maybe you saw it. I was<br \/>\nthe one rolling my eyes as Shermer spoke. Sorry about that, a spontaneous<br \/>\nreflex of the involuntary nervous system.<\/p>\n<p>Afterwards, however, I had an unpredictable reaction. I realized that I<br \/>\nwould much rather expound woo woo than the kind of bad science Shermer<br \/>\nstands behind. He has made skepticism his personal brand, more or less,<br \/>\nsitting by the side of the road to denigrate &#8220;those people who believe in<br \/>\nspirituality, ghosts, and so on,&#8221; as he says on a YouTube video. No matter<br \/>\nthat this broad brush would tar not just the Pope, Mahatma Gandhi, St.<br \/>\nTeresa of Avila, Buddha, and countless scientists who happen to recognize a<br \/>\nreality that transcends space and time. All are deemed irrational by the<br \/>\nskeptical crowd. You would think that skeptics as a class have made<br \/>\nsignificant contributions to science or the quality of life in their own<br \/>\nright. Uh oh. No, they haven&#8217;t. Their principal job is to reinforce the<br \/>\ngreat ideas of yesterday while suppressing the great ideas of tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>Let me clear the slate with Shermer and forget the several times he has<br \/>\nwiggled out of a public debate he was supposedly eager to have with me. I<br \/>\nwill ignore his recent blog in which his rebuttal of my position was<br \/>\nrelegated to a long letter from someone who obviously didn&#8217;t possess English<br \/>\nas a first language (would Shermer like to write a defense of his position<br \/>\nin Hindi? It would read just as ludicrously if Hindi isn&#8217;t his first<br \/>\nlanguage).<\/p>\n<p>With the slate clear, I&#8217;d like to see if Shermer will accept the offer to<br \/>\ndebate me at length on such profound questions as the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Is there evidence for creativity and intelligence in the cosmos?<\/li>\n<li>What is consciousness?<\/li>\n<li>Do we have a core identity beyond our biology, mind, and ego?<\/li>\n<li>Is there life after death? Does this identity outlive the molecules\u00c2\u00a0through which it expresses itself?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The rules will be simple. He can argue from any basis he chooses, and I will<br \/>\nconfine myself entirely to science. For we have reached the state where<br \/>\nShermer&#8217;s tired, out-of-date, utterly mediocre science is far in arrears of<br \/>\nthe best, most open scientific thinkers &#8212; actually, we reached that point<br \/>\nsixty years ago when eminent physicists like Einstein, Wolfgang Pauli,<br \/>\nWerner Heisenberg and Erwin Schrodinger applied quantum theory to deep<br \/>\nspiritual questions. The arrogance of skeptics is both high-handed and<br \/>\nrusty. It is high-handed because they lump brilliant speculative thinkers<br \/>\ninto one black box known as woo woo. It is rusty because Shermer doesn&#8217;t<br \/>\neven bother to keep up with the latest findings in neuroscience, medicine,<br \/>\ngenetics, physics, and evolutionary biology. All of these fields have opened<br \/>\nfascinating new ground for speculation and imagination. But the king of<br \/>\npooh-pooh is too busy chasing down imaginary woo woo.<\/p>\n<p>Skeptics feel that they have won to the high ground in matters concerning<br \/>\nconsciousness, mind, the origins of life, evolutionary theory, and brain<br \/>\nscience. This is far from the case. What they cling to is nineteenth-<br \/>\ncentury materialism, packaged with a screeching hysteria about God and<br \/>\nreligion that is so pass\u00c3\u00a9 it has become quaint. To suggest that Darwinian<br \/>\ntheory is incomplete and full of unproven hypotheses, causes Shermer, who<br \/>\ntakes Darwin as purely as a fundamentalist takes scripture, to see God<br \/>\neverywhere in the enemy camp.<\/p>\n<p>How silly. Shermer is a former Christian fundamentalist who is now a<br \/>\nfundamentalist about materialism; fundamentalists must have an absolute to<br \/>\nbelieve in. Thus he forces himself into a corner, declaring that all<br \/>\nspirituality is bogus, that the sense of self is an illusion, that the soul<br \/>\nis ipso facto a fraud, that mind has no existence except in the brain, that<br \/>\nintelligence emerged only when evolution, guided by random mutations,<br \/>\ndeveloped the cerebral cortex, that nothing invisible can be real compared<br \/>\nto solid objects, and that any thought which ventures beyond the five senses<br \/>\nfor evidence must be dismissed without question.<\/p>\n<p>I won&#8217;t go into detail about the absurdity of such rigid thinking. However,<br \/>\nthe impulse behind dogmatic materialism seems intended to flatten one&#8217;s<br \/>\nopponents so thoroughly that through scorn and arrogance they must admit<br \/>\ndefeat, conceding that science is the complete refutation of all preceding<br \/>\nreligion, spirituality, psychology, myth, and philosophy &#8212; in other words,<br \/>\nany mode of gaining knowledge that arch materialism doesn&#8217;t countenance.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve baited this post with a few barbs to see if Shermer can be goaded into<br \/>\nan actual public debate. I have avoided his and his follower&#8217;s underhanded<br \/>\nmethods, whereby an opponent is attacked ad hominem as an idiot, moron, and<br \/>\nother choice epithets that in his world are the mainstays of rational<br \/>\nargument. And the point of such a debate? To further public knowledge about<br \/>\nthe actual frontiers of science, which has always depended on wonder, awe,<br \/>\nimagination, and speculation. Petty science of the Shermer brand scorns such<br \/>\nthings, but the greatest discoveries have been anchored on them.<\/p>\n<p>If you are tempted to think that I have taken the weaker side and that<br \/>\nmaterialism long ago won this debate, let me end with a piece of utterly<br \/>\nnonsensical woo woo:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Nobody understands how decisions are made or how imagination is set free.<br \/>\nWhat consciousness consists of, or how it should be defined, is equally<br \/>\npuzzling. Despite the marvelous success of neuroscience in the past century,<br \/>\nwe seem as far from understanding cognitive processes as we were a century<br \/>\nago.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That isn&#8217;t a quote from &#8220;one of those people who believe in spirituality,<br \/>\nghosts, and so on.&#8221; It&#8217;s from Sir John Maddox, former editor-in-chief of the<br \/>\nrenowned scientific journal Nature, writing in 1999. I can&#8217;t wait for<br \/>\nShermer to call him an idiot and a moron. Don&#8217;t worry, he won&#8217;t. He&#8217;ll find<br \/>\nan artful way of slithering to higher ground where all the other skeptics<br \/>\nare huddled.<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rah, rah, Deepak Choprah, &#8220;King of Woo Woo&#8221; for taking on Skeptic Michael Shermer (former fundamentalist Christian) now the &#8220;King of Pooh Pooh&#8221;. Here&#8217;s the very latest volley in the ongoing war between religion and science&#8230;(a useless war since they actually coexist and overlap, ya know!) 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